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Oklahoma officers blast change to how they can get Ring doorbell video

Privacy advocates said it's a step in the right direction.

Oklahoma officers blast change to how they can get Ring doorbell video

Privacy advocates said it's a step in the right direction.

KOCO COLBY TERRELL TALKED TO BOTH SIDES. IF YOU HAVE A RING DOORBELL AND CRIME HAPPENS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. POLICE USED TO BE ABLE TO DOWNLOAD THE VIDEO STRAIGHT FROM THE APP WITH YOUR PERMISSION. NOW, IF THEY WANT THIS VIDEO, THEY HAVE TO TAKE AN EXTRA STEP. ADVOCATES CALL IT A WIN FOR PRIVACY. THIS CHANGE MEANS THAT AMAZON IS OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF FACILITATING RING POLICE REQUESTS DIRECTLY TO ITS PAID CUSTOMERS. THE NEIGHBORS BY RING APP IS CHANGING THE WAY IT LETS POLICE ASK FOR YOUR VIDEO. NOW. LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL HAVE TO SEND YOU SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GIVE IT TO THEM, AND THEY’RE SAYING THAT WILL SLOW DOWN JUSTICE. THE SOONER THEY GET INFORMATION, THE QUICKER THEY CAN WORK. CASES IDENTIFY SUSPECTS AND HELP SOLVE CRIMES. SO ANYTHING THAT DELAYS THAT PROCESS IS NOT GOOD FOR US. IT’S NOT GOOD FOR THE GENERAL CITIZEN. EVEN BEFORE THE REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE FEATURE WOULD GIVE POLICE THE CHANCE TO REACH OUT AND DOWNLOAD WITH THE TOUCH OF A BUTTON. BUT ONE GROUP I TALKED TO TODAY SAYS IT WAS TOO EASY. I DON’T KNOW IF IT GAVE THE CLEAR SENSE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY NO IF THEY WANTED PRIVACY ADVOCATES SAY ADVANCES IN TECHNOLOGY SHOULDN’T INFRINGE ON YOUR RIGHTS. THEY’D HAVE TO COME KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR AND YOU COULD ASK THEM QUESTIONS. YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, ASK THEM HOW MUCH FOOTAGE THEY NEEDED, WHAT THEY WERE INVESTIGATING, AND YOU HAD THE RIGHT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I EITHER HERE’S THE FOOTAGE OR PLEASE COME BACK WITH A WARRANT. UM, AND I THINK WHAT WE’RE TRYING TO DO IS GET TO A DIGITAL VERSION OF THAT RELATIONSHIP, OKC POLICE CHIEF WADE GOURLEY SAID IN A STATEMENT THAT THIS MOVE BRINGS UP UNNECESSARY BARRIERS. CITIZENS MAY GIVE UP. THEY MAY GET FRUSTRATED IN GETTING INFORMATION TO YOU. THEY HAVE THE SAME BARRIER TO ENTRY AS THEY DID BEFORE, WHICH IS REQUESTING FROM USERS. IT’S JUST THAT RING IS UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO BUILD THESE FREE TOOLS. THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE TELLS ME, EVEN THOUGH THEY’RE DISAPPOINTED, THE JOB WILL STILL GET DONE. IT’S ANOTHER HURDLE THAT WE HAVE TO TO ENGAGE IN TO GET IT DONE. THAT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY, BUT WE’LL STILL GET THE JOB DONE. RING TELLS ME THEY GOT RID OF THIS FEATURE WHILE TRYING
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Oklahoma officers blast change to how they can get Ring doorbell video

Privacy advocates said it's a step in the right direction.

Oklahoma officers blasted a change to how they get Ring doorbell video, saying it'll make investigations harder and slower.Privacy advocates said it's a step in the right direction. For those with a Ring doorbell, police used to be able to download the video straight from the app, with the owner's permission.Now, if police want the video, there is an extra step. Advocates called it a win for privacy."This change means Amazon is out of the business of facilitating police request directly to its paid customers," said Matthew Guariglia with the Electronic Frontier Foundation.Get the latest news stories of interest by clicking here.The Neighbors by Ring app changed the way it lets police ask for video. Now, law enforcement will have to send the owner somewhere else to give it to them and they said it will slow down justice."The sooner they get information, the quicker they can work cases, identify suspects and help solve crimes. So, anything that delays that process is not good for us, it’s not good for the general citizen," said Rob Gallavan with the Fraternal Order of Police.Before, the Request For Assistance feature would give police the chance to reach out and download with the touch of a button. One group said it was too easy."I don’t know if it gave the clear sense that people had the ability to say no if they wanted," Guariglia said.Privacy advocates said advances in technology shouldn't infringe on rights.>> Download the KOCO 5 App"They’d have to come knock on your door and you could ask them questions, you could ask them how much footage they needed, what they were investigating, and you had the right to say either here’s the footage or please come back with a warrant. And I think what we’re trying to do is get to a digital version of that relationship," Guariglia said.OKC Police Chief Wade Gourley said in a statement that this move brings up unnecessary barriers, saying, "This decision by Amazon Ring puts unnecessary barriers in place that historically are addressed with our neighbors and a judge-issued warrant.""Citizens may give up they may get frustrated in getting information to you," Gallavan said.The FOP said even though they're disappointed, the job will still get done."They have the same barrier to entry as they did before, which is requesting from users. It’s just that Ring is under no obligation to build these free tools," Guariglia said.Ring said they got rid of the feature while trying to bring in new product and app experiences."It’s another hurdle that we have to engage in to get it done, that may not be necessary, but we’ll still get the job done," Gallavan said.Top HeadlinesPerson taken to hospital after vehicle badly damaged on I-35 in MoorePresidents Day 2024 Sales: Early deals you should know about2 people, including adult film actress Jesse Jane, found dead at Moore homeCar crashes into side of Braum's in south Oklahoma City, injuring 1 personMember of OKGOP committee that condemned Lankford wasn't notified of meeting, calling it illegitimate

Oklahoma officers blasted a change to how they get Ring doorbell video, saying it'll make investigations harder and slower.

Privacy advocates said it's a step in the right direction. For those with a Ring doorbell, police used to be able to download the video straight from the app, with the owner's permission.

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Now, if police want the video, there is an extra step. Advocates called it a win for privacy.

"This change means Amazon is out of the business of facilitating police request directly to its paid customers," said Matthew Guariglia with the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

Get the latest news stories of interest by clicking here.

The Neighbors by Ring app changed the way it lets police ask for video. Now, law enforcement will have to send the owner somewhere else to give it to them and they said it will slow down justice.

"The sooner they get information, the quicker they can work cases, identify suspects and help solve crimes. So, anything that delays that process is not good for us, it’s not good for the general citizen," said Rob Gallavan with the Fraternal Order of Police.

Before, the Request For Assistance feature would give police the chance to reach out and download with the touch of a button. One group said it was too easy.

"I don’t know if it gave the clear sense that people had the ability to say no if they wanted," Guariglia said.

Privacy advocates said advances in technology shouldn't infringe on rights.

>> Download the KOCO 5 App

"They’d have to come knock on your door and you could ask them questions, you could ask them how much footage they needed, what they were investigating, and you had the right to say either here’s the footage or please come back with a warrant. And I think what we’re trying to do is get to a digital version of that relationship," Guariglia said.

OKC Police Chief Wade Gourley said in a statement that this move brings up unnecessary barriers, saying, "This decision by Amazon Ring puts unnecessary barriers in place that historically are addressed with our neighbors and a judge-issued warrant."

"Citizens may give up they may get frustrated in getting information to you," Gallavan said.

The FOP said even though they're disappointed, the job will still get done.

"They have the same barrier to entry as they did before, which is requesting from users. It’s just that Ring is under no obligation to build these free tools," Guariglia said.

Ring said they got rid of the feature while trying to bring in new product and app experiences.

"It’s another hurdle that we have to engage in to get it done, that may not be necessary, but we’ll still get the job done," Gallavan said.


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